The app worked great to set up my 10 gear Haibike. So freaking easy!! 
. I then investigated the tuning options and am now wondering about the use-case where this feature is needed? It seems like the risk of cable stretch is minimized and the spacing between the gear cogs is uniform, so when would we need to tune it? I imagine it would allow the derailleur to completely skip gears, if that was ever needed…
Big shout out for the ability to go from hi to low (and back) with one long press!
I am wondering how it will be to use with winter gloves, considering how small the shifter buttons are. I can’t wait to find out!
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Glad your install went smooth. Once you’ve done it once, an entire install can be done in 5 minutes. It takes longer to remove the old cable and shifter than to install our wireless kit.
Fair question about the gloves. Thick winter gloves could be a problem with the shifter buttons. But we are working on alternative shift buttons/levers. Also we are talking with other partners who may be offering solutions for this.
For tuning, you are correct, it may never be needed at all. This is a legacy feature from before we had the tuning option by remote control. It is often needed however on initial setup. Some derailleurs will come out perfect first time, sometimes you need to adjust some of them. But, in any case, you can tune with the buttons which is actually faster and easier. At this point, for a 1X system, the app is only required for changing the number of gears from 12 to some other number. In the future, once we have the 2X system, and additional remote controls, the APP will be necessary for the more advanced features, such as synchro shift setup, etc.
FYI, this device already has 2X and synchro-shift installed and tested. We just are preparing to release front derailleur options, and update the app.
hi, could you use the rear derailleur product on a front derailleur instead of you set the number of gears to two or three? I think a front derailleur requires double the force to pull the cable, about 70-80N. Also happy to wait for the front derailleur version if this wont work. Thanks
Yes in most cases it will have plenty of power for a FD. The worst one we’ve seen is a SRAM Red, because its got a rather badly designed pivot point, lots of stress. Strains the motor a bit, but won’t be damaged. It might stop pulling if the battery gets a little low.
The challenge is mounting and actuating the cable on a typical internal routed road bike. We do have a clever solution to that and are filing patents. We won’t disclose until the patents are filed.
If you have a pull up cable, with a cable clamp on the frame, then its easy. Just use a small length of cable and mount the motor on the frame.
As for synchro shift: The devices are fully functional and tested. But, we have not yet finished updating the new app to support and program it. The APP is required for this because you need to program in all the gear ratios. This is the main reason we only released the 1X system to start with. But it is definitely coming this summer.
thank you for coming back to me on this point. Its good to know the unit can handle both FD and RD and it won’t damage it. Do you have a ffame mount for sale? or can you suggest an off the shelf solutions? i’m thinking of something simple with a couple of cable ties
We will have the frame mount for sale in a couple months. Sorry its not ready now. But you can probably fabricate something yourself easily. A bent piece of aluminum, in an L shape, and just attach it with the nose of the shifter and the included hex nut. Some rubber insulator and a couple of zip ties. That is how ours will work.
We’d be very interested to see how it works with the FD. Please let us know if you have any problems with it.
